"The abnegation of reason is not the evidence of faith, but the confession of despair."

- J.B. Lightfoot
Boldly Going Nowhere

Drat . . .

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1. Bobbi - 06/14/2010 10:31 am CDT

Thanks for posting this. I will forward it on to my brother who has been to all the Mars Conferences and has met many of the astronauts.

2. Shrode - 06/14/2010 11:28 am CDT

I don't understand all the ins and outs of all this political maneuvering, but I'll say this: it sure feels like Obama is just trying to deprive Bush of his legacy.

No way is he going to continue the vision of Bush.

Too bad. This makes me sad. I was hoping my boys would live to see someone land on Mars.

3. Andrew - 06/14/2010 12:40 pm CDT

I don't understand all the ins and outs of all this political maneuvering, but I'll say this: it sure feels like Obama is just trying to deprive Bush of his legacy.

Isn't the simpler answer that the economy is bad and Americans by-and-large favor cuts to NASA?

I don't like this decision, but I'm not cynical about the reasons behind it.

4. Shrode - 06/14/2010 2:22 pm CDT

No, I think my answer is simpler.

But your answer is probably the right one. ;-)

5. Roy - 06/15/2010 11:24 pm CDT

Think, Thinklings. Does gov't have the obligation to fund space exploration?

I do not mean that one may reflexively answer that question. Eg, I'd argue that, since God gives gov't the sword (responsiblity to keep meanies controlled), it very well might have reason to invest in research related to national defense.

But I would argue also that exploration belongs primarly in the hands of people other than gov't.

So while I'm very sad about the 'short sighted' choice not to make use of the local "shallow gravity well" aka Moon (which would provide both an incredible laboratory and a base of operations), I'm not devastated. Maybe Space One and similar will get into play.

And it may take as many centuries to get the game going as did the path to developing North and South America.

6. Shrode - 06/16/2010 1:29 am CDT

Roy,
I have been thinking about how it's ironic that in this case it's liberals who are saying that this would be better done by the private sector and conservatives who are saying that it would be better if the Gov't did it.

Weird.

But didn't Gov'ts fund exploration back in the day? (Columbus, Lewis & Clark are two examples that come to mind.)

7. Bill - 06/16/2010 6:01 am CDT

Roy,

There is definitely an argument to be made for what you're suggesting here. I don't think there's a constitutional case for the funding of pure exploration by the Government.

I think the space race of the 60s, however, was a national security issue in many ways. I have a lot of affection for the old NASA and that's what prompted this post. Plus, I'm a technologist and it absolutely kills me that we got to the moon on 1960s technology and now, forty years later, we can't get there at all.

8. Bill - 06/16/2010 6:02 am CDT

Addendum . . .

To make it worse . . .

As far as I can tell, we won't even be able to get into ORBIT without the help of other countries.

Hopefully the private sector will pick up the slack.

9. Roy - 06/16/2010 11:57 pm CDT

Bill (posts 7, 8),
I echo your groans.

Once in a while I muse on the tragedies that almost happened because NASA had to rely on vacuum tubes rather than solid state, on roomsized computers that my laptop could beat.

Can't folks do more now? Well, there's still that problem of gravity vs energy density of fuels. (Ironically, the Moon would be the perfect place to build a magnetic launch rail.)

Now if Obama et al won't make space explorers liable for accidents with no caps on liability....

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