"The more I read the New Age literature, the more I am struck by several facts. Almost none of it seriously wrestles with the historical and textual arguments put forward by serious Christians. New Age thought is insufferably fuzzy and inconsistent. Anthing it likes or can use, it rips out of its historic context and redeploys with new content, often made out of whole cloth. It almost never deals with evil, because it is most commonly pantheistic -- and religions that do not wrestle with the problems of human evil are blind beyond words. Worse, almost all of this multiplying thought is irremediably selfish. The aim of the exercise is self-fulfillment, self-actualization, serenity, productivity, power. God, if he/she/it exists, exists for me. And from a biblical perspective, it is this profound selfishness that lies at the heart of all human sin."
- D.A. Carson
Wednesday, February 27, 2013
I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. ... But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep ...
- John 10:11,26
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Comments on "Limited Atonement":
2. Quaid
- 02/28/2013 8:19 am CST
If you put these things before the brothers, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, being trained in the words of the faith and of the good doctrine that you have followed. Have nothing to do with irreverent, silly myths. Rather train yourself for godliness; for while bodily training is of some value, godliness is of value in every way, as it holds promise for the present life and also for the life to come. The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance. For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.
-1 Timothy 4:6-10
3. Karl
- 02/28/2013 4:34 pm CST
What's the reason for the TULIP posts?
I'm tempted to simply proof-text back with contrary Arminian-supporting verses. But if it was so easy, there wouldn't be brilliant people like CS Lewis saying things like:
“I take it as a first principle that we must not interpret any one part of Scripture so that it contradicts other parts . . . . The real inter-relation between God’s omnipotence and Man’s freedom is something we can’t find out. Looking at the Sheep & the Goats every man can be quite sure that every kind act he does will be accepted by Christ. Yet, equally, we all do feel sure that all the good in us comes from Grace. We have to leave it at that. I find the best plan is to take the Calvinist view of my own virtues and other people’s vices; and the other view of my own vices and other peoples virtues. But tho’ there is much to be puzzled about, there is nothing to be worried about. It is plain from Scripture that, in whatever sense the Pauline doctrine is true, it is not true in any sense which excludes its (apparent) opposite.
4. Bird
- 02/28/2013 4:41 pm CST
What's the reason for the TULIP posts?
Same reason we post anything around here. ;-)
I'm tempted to simply proof-text back with contrary Arminian-supporting verses. But if it was so easy, there wouldn't be brilliant people like CS Lewis saying things like:
I always liked that Lewis quote. I hate to put words in our Bill's mouth, but seems like that would sum up his (Bill's) position.
5. Roy
- 02/28/2013 8:54 pm CST
Perhaps folks facing Raindream's dilemma could make progress if they reframed their presentation. Instead of using the word "limited", which might make recalling a tulip acrostic easier, think "personal".
Jesus died for me. My name is written on his hands. He did not merely hope for my salvation. He accomplished it. Then he sent the Spirit, who made me able to see what Jesus had done, able to believe the Gospel. In short, my redemption has intensely personal characteristics.
For reasons entirely in himself and due to nothing in me, he chose me. Nothing in me constrained or contributed to that choice. Nor did something in someone else make me comparatively better choice, such that for that reason he did not choose them but instead decided to love me. God freely chose to love whom he wished. Equally freely, God chose not to love whom he did not wish to love. He loves personally, not randomly or accidentally.
6. Flyaway
- 03/01/2013 12:38 pm CST
"He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters." Matthew 12:30
7. Quaid
- 03/01/2013 5:18 pm CST
"My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world."
- 1 John 2:1-2
9. Quaid
- 03/04/2013 7:37 am CST
I've thrown nothing. You've read the words of Paul and John. (not Sirs McCartney and Lennon, rather the apostles)
But in case you prefer The Beatles:
And when the broken hearted people living in the world agree
There will be an answer, let it be
For though they may be parted, there is still a chance that they will see
There will be an answer, let it be
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