Not sure what interest there is in talking about this week's episode, but I thought I'd provide a forum anyway. I wasn't able to live-blog this week as we weren't near the combination of TV and computer necessary to do so when the show aired.
Just saw it.
Talk amongst yourselves. My brief thoughts below.
******* Spoilers Follow ********
Michael is, as always, a tortured soul.
Tom's gay. But we already knew that.
Ben is one of the good guys***. I knew it!
Sayid rocks. Even if his decision to out Michael was bad. He's still the coolest, most decisive, and most competent Lostie.
The crew members of the Widmore boat are the most incurious members of a nefarious, top-secret mission that I've ever seen, if the non-search of the huge, mysterious crate delivered to Kevin Johnson is any indication.
Other examples of the crew members of Widmore Cruiselines having no sense of secrecy: chuckling in a dark and evil way when Michael asks them if they are on a rescue mission, and - in Frank's case - expositing the entire Widmore plot to a deckhand he doesn't even know.
The answers are coming, but in a heavy-handed, clumsy way. This episode answered some questions but I wish they had done it better.
The island is so powerful, it can make a fully loaded gun click on an empty chamber.
It took Michael's fellow mechanic forever to go get that pressure doohicky. The supply room must be at the other end of the boat.
According to Tom, Charles Widmore planted the plane and raided a Taiwanese cemetery for 324 bodies (without filling the graves back in, based on the picture he showed Michael). This goes against the reasoning the captain of the boat appeared to have for going to get Ben (being that Ben was the evil mastermind behind the fake plane wreck). Confused? Me too.
The red button, featured so prominently in last week's previews, turns out to have been a ruse, rather than (as I expected) the climax of this week's show.
Oh, and Carl and Rousseau are dead. As far as we know.
No more new Lost until April 24th.
*** Well, at least when compared to Charles Widmore.
- G.K. Chesterton
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"Where do we discover that Ben is gooder [sic] than Widmore?"
Ben tells us: It's why he wouldn't blow up the boat - it has innocent people on it. Widmore, on the other hand, will kill everyone on the island.
Miles, by his silence, admitted that they had orders to kill everyone once they got Ben.
Ben's good. He's one of the good guys!!
[Bill zombies off . . .]
I think that Micheal is the one in the coffin , because why else would anyone besides the Oceanic 6 be there if he was going by a different name ? Kate must be mad at Micheal for some reason and that is why Jack was the only one of the Oceanic 6 that was at the funeral.
"I think that Micheal is the one in the coffin , because why else would anyone besides the Oceanic 6 be there if he was going by a different name"
Yes, I was an early-adopter of the "it's Michael in the coffin" - although there are some troubling problems with the theory - mainly the fact that he's from NY, not LA.
I was also temporarily thrown off by the teaser that showed him pressing a red button and (I imagined) blowing up the boat. Dumb me.
He imagined himself blowing up the boat , too , so don't feel bad . I have also heard that it is Ben in the coffin because why else would Kate be mad at anyone else . I am in the middle of those two theories and cannot decide .
Well, Jacque, to combine two of your theories:
What if the someone who killed Jin is Michael? It certainly makes sense, given Michael's history with Sun.
While many of you hate Kate, I think she would probably react appropriately to the murder of Sun's baby-daddy and, therefore, be unwilling to go to Michael's funeral in LA.
If Michael kills Jin . . . well I'll hate him forever (that's OK, cause it's just a tv show, right?) but I'd also be really surprised. Michael and Jin became good buddies in the series, after a rocky start.
I don't think Michael is going to kill Jin. If he does, it will be an accident.
I'm hoping Jin is still alive, just on the island, having sacrificed his place in the Oceanic 6 so that Sun could live and have her baby.
Which won't explain why they let Kate, the felon and murderer, go back home. Ugh.
Jin rules.
Also, about "who's in the coffin". It wouldn't surprise me if the writers don't know yet. :-)
Also, reasons that alone of the oceanic six Jack went to Michael's (theoretically) funeral.
1. Hurley: Michael killed Libby. No way Hurley would go
2. Sayid: Always had suspicions about Michael. Michael betrayed them all at the end of S2, and ruined Sayid's plan. Plus he's too busy out wacking people for Ben.
3. Kate: She has done her best to forget all about the island. She doesn't want to go back, having finally gotten a settled-down (not to mention financially set) life. Plus Michael betrayed her and got her stuck in a bear-cage with Sawyer for a month.
4. Sun: In Korea.
5. Aaron. Poor little tyke. Stuck with Kate.
Plus: all five of them remember how Michael killed AL and Libby.
That leaves Jack, trying to get back to the island in any possible way and drawn to any reminder of it, even Michael's casket.
If he's gonna plant the plane at a depth so deep that no one would bother attempt to go after them, other than the pilot, why does he heed 324 bodies?
I don't get that bit of info. If they can't go down and get them, how could a camera be down there close enough for Jeff Fahey to see that the pilot didn't have a wedding ring on?
Just because they're not going to go after them doesn't mean that they won't try and verify that the plane is the oceanic flight with cameras.
If the footage came up with an empty plane shell, media/others would ask, but where are all the passengers???
Bill: Isn't wack spelled "whack"? Not sure . . .
Also, Kate's reason seemed a little weak given her reaction. In the finale, she seemed more than just, "I'd rather not" and into the territory of "Do you seriously think I would go?"
I'm not certain that it's Michael, but it does make a little sense. I'm wondering if it's not one of the others who could get back and forth from the mainland.
I think it makes a lot of sense that Micheal killed Jin , Thanks .
If they can't go down and get them, how could a camera be down there close enough for Jeff Fahey to see that the pilot didn't have a wedding ring on?
I thought they were using a remote controlled, unmanned sub. I would think that in that case, the only people that matter would be the pilots as they are the only windows big enough to get a good look into.
To get a look at the rest, you'd have to get inside the plane. I suppose, if you're going to be thorough, you'd plan for the possibility that the plane would break open going down and the sub could get inside. You'd want there to be no way for there to be a mistake.
Of course, if you were being that thorough, you'd fill up the graves after you stole the bodies too. :-D
Yeah, I figured it was a "drone" or whatever, but I guess I figured if they could do that, they could salvage it somehow too.
Maybe I'm naive about the logistics of such a thing.
But the plane has windows all up and down the passenger cabin - not just the pilots.
Well , one of the reasons that Sun ( who grew fond of Micheal when they were on the island ) would not be at Micheals funeral is because he may have killed Jin and that is why I think Sun would not be at the funeral . That is the only reason that I could think of for Sun not to be there.
Where do we discover that Ben is gooder [sic] than Widmore?
This was the longest flashback in LOST history, and I kind of prefer more back and forth. Still, a good episode to set up the rest of the season.
Can you imagine if the writer's strike had continued and this is what we were left with until next year? Blech.
I think Alex is definitely gone, but a "risen" Rousseau would be incredibly awesome. With a bloody shoulder, rising up and killing her daughter's attackers - how tight that would be.
Also - the Oceanic Six are official. Thoughts?
Keen insight by my wife -
Just as the island wouldn't let Michael die, Jack tried sucicide in "The Beginning of the End" to no avail. It appears as if Jack has work to do :)