I posted my thoughts at Semicolon.

However, I don't think the Others know as much as they pretend to know. I think they're desperate to find out some things from Jack and Kate and Sawyer. Especially Jack.

Well, the ending of the show totally redeemed it. I would have given it an A but, as I said, the Others workday of "move those rocks over here" seemed just an excuse to get different angles of Kate in her dress. I'm tired of all the new Other characters. Although I really liked Sawyer in those scenes.

This has revived my hopes for this season, because I was nervous after last week's show. That being said, I think this season will be different than the previous ones - perhaps less mystery and more answers. Could be wrong.

I don't know if that guy committed suicide. My first reaction was that one of Sun's dad's guys was there to make sure Jin finished the job. Dunno though.

I wasn't thrilled with this epi. I'm a little irritated by all the new characters with the exception of Ben, and Juliet's Ally McBealesque smirk annoys me.

I was disappointed to learn that Sun may not fall too far from the tree after all. I don't believe Jae killed himself. Either Sun's dad finished the job or he sent someone else to do it because he knew Jin wouldn't kill him. And when Jin told Sun he knew she had deceived him, I don't think he was referring to Sayid's plan.

Didn't any of the Others ever discover that Alex is the one who let Claire go, or is she possibly on the run now? Maybe they blamed Claire's escape on the young guy in the cage and that's why Alex was asking about him.

I wonder who'll be the new leader back on the beach. Locke seems a poor choice considering what happened last time he insisted on having his way...

Benry's remark: "I've spent all my life on this island."

If true, this would dovetail well in to my previous theory posted in the last Lost thread. The island wasn't just a research outpost, but a full colony. It looks like they have a population of maybe two to four hundred people, judging from the scene in the previous ep. where we saw that surreal neighborhood in the middle of a valley.

Sun was perfectly justified in shooting Colleen. She had no reason to trust her based upon the Others track record and she was holding a gun. I know that may seem like an obvious conclusion, but I'm getting tired of the whole moral equivalence schtick after having a liberal doese of it from Battlestar Galatica. At this point, I would be half-inclined to blow all the Others off the map if I were a military planner who had to assess it as a threat. These people wage an unprovoked war upon innocent survivors and then strut around declaring they're the good guys? Yup, they're definitely drinking the Kool Aid. Hope you have fun drinking it to, De.

The underlying theme of this episode is honesty (like no one could catch that). The most unlikely character (Sawyer) shows some and comes out on top for once (even though he's beaten a few times for his troubles) and the ones you would expect to show it, dont't, and suffer as a result. Ben shows some honesty (apparently) and displays more deceit, which seems to go along with the theme of the Others apparent moral ambiguity. Does it strike anyone that Jin has been the most trustworthy person among the Lostaways thus far? Oh, and now that Sayid has pulled a Jack, do you think you might let up on the harshness? (Just pulling your chain a bit)

Any other theories why he had the necklace in his hand? Did I miss something?

There was a definite implication, with the shot focusing on Jin's look upward, that Sun's father might have sent a second person. And from the rather sniveling reponse of Jae when Jin put a gun to his head, he didn't appear to be too distraught over loosing Sun.

"Oh, and now that Sayid has pulled a Jack, do you think you might let up on the harshness? (Just pulling your chain a bit)"

Well, I think I already have! :-) I even said I liked Jack in this ep - and I did criticize Sayid.

Everyone please put down the torches and pitchforks . . .

I don't think Sun pushed Jae out the window. But I liked Sun a lot less in this ep than I usually do. It's not the moral failure so much as her deceit.

"I’m a little irritated by all the new characters with the exception of Ben, and Juliet’s Ally McBealesque smirk annoys me."

Although she is an intriguing character. As Sawyer said, she would have pulled that trigger without giving it another thought.

I'm not thrilled with all the new characters either.

Jin rocks the kasbah.

Twice as tired of The Others as I was last week.

Hope Jack snaps Benry's neck.

Hope Sawyer snaps Zeke's neck.

Don't care if Sawyer and Kate end up together because I really don't care for either one of them.

Still no Kiele Sanchez. :-(

;-)

I'm not sure what the work thing is, to be honest. Do we still believe that the Others are conducting experiments on people?

Do you think that as soon as the plane crashed and Henry sent his minions to mingle with the survivors that they sat down to plan what experiments could be done with the lostaways? I don't think that psychosis plays a part in the series.

What were they doing with Claire (and her baby) in Season 1?

I thought these first six episodes were focusing mainly on Jack, Kate and Sawyer. It looks as if next week they may not be in the show at all.

I'm really hoping for a Lock flashback. I think that his is the backstory that might be most intriguing, given what we don't know about him. How'd he get paralyzed? What's up with his dad? etc.

"I thought these first six episodes were focusing mainly on Jack, Kate and Sawyer. It looks as if next week they may not be in the show at all."

Thank goodness! Get us back to Lostaway camp, puhleese!

Stroke was somewhat surprised, or at least displayed disagreement, with the fact that I liked this episode better than last week's. I like it better because:

1- The suspense on the boat. Going to commercial with Others creeping onto the stern of the sailboat sent screeches through our LOST party and my fiancee gripping my arm as if she were on the boat herself.

2- Someone died. I know that sounds stupid and might be indicative of bloodlust, but it was STINKIN AWESOME when Colleen said, "I know you're not a killer" and then got shot. (Which is why I'm not sold on the fact that the marriage-wrecker jumped to his death. If Sun isn't afraid to kill now, she wasn't afraid to kill then, either.)

3- SAWYER KISSED KATE. (Why have we not mentioned this until now?) Regardless of motives, it was a pretty tight move.

4- Jack's scene where he realizes that the BoSox won the Series. VERY well acted. The look on his face as he realizes that these people are technologically with the rest of the world was cool. It was his only scene and it was a good one.


Don't get me wrong. Last week's episode was pretty good, but without the first five minutes, we would have been discussing how the show is going downhill in Season 3. It's refreshing to see that the show hasn't really lost any steam (IMO). . .

Someone died. I know that sounds stupid and might be indicative of bloodlust, but it was STINKIN AWESOME when Colleen said, “I know you’re not a killer” and then got shot. (Which is why I’m not sold on the fact that the marriage-wrecker jumped to his death. If Sun isn’t afraid to kill now, she wasn’t afraid to kill then, either.)

I'm sort of wondering if she's not dead yet and will become Jack's next project to work on, especially if Ben makes it part of his offer. I agree with the notion that Sun may have killed before and think it's an interesting idea that she finished the job when Jin didn't.

I really, really can't picture Sun as having killed Jae. What would she have been doing there? She was at home when Jin left to "deliver the message".

I put this in the same boat as "Juliet is Jack's half-sister". Possible, but very scanty evidence to support it.

Very interesting theory about Jack operating on Colleen. Although it should be assumed (and I think it's been shown) that the Other have medical personnel.

Jack's great as a doctor, but I don't know that the Others *need* him. I could be wrong.

For what it's worth, I thought this episode was WAY better than last week. One cool five-minute opening scene does not last week's ep redeem.

This one would have been perfect if they could have done the Others work detail part differently. It was just buggin'.

Back to the "Ben & Juliet are an item" discussion:
When Colleen came down the hatch to talk to Ben, we got our first look at his monitor station. We also heard Colleen ask, "Am I interrupting something?" Juliet replies, "Would it matter if you were?"

Now, maybe I'm reading too much into this, but this exchange seemed charged in the direction that Ben and Juliet are/were an item. Obviously, it's not an open and shut case, but I think how they handled that conversation put a point in the "past relationship" column.

As far as the worksite, when Sawyer and Kate got there, there were other people already working. I really don't think it's an experiment. While they were working, Juliet and Colleen's (possible) widower were looking at plans, as if they were getting ready to build something - as if there was legitimate work to be done.

What's up with the kids that they stole - where are they?

And did anyone else hear the tree-moving monster in the background while Kate & James were chatting it up in the end of the ep?

I wondered if "you never made me soup" was an indication that Ben, now the leader of the Others, was at one time a prisoner of theirs.

But, as in all things "Lost" theoretical, that's just speculation.

ooh, i like that theory. he has been there is whole life, ya know?

i also just read a possible connection. last night they mentioned an "Other" named brian. brian is also the name of walt's stepdad, who put michael and walt on flight 815 and knew of walt's "gifts."

Also, my appreciation for Jin has gone way up (as my appreciation for Sun has gone down). Jin does, indeed, rock the Kasbah.

I disagree that Jin knows about Sun's unfaithfulness. His reaction when he found out that she was pregnant was not at all suspicious. And remember she said "I have never been with another man. That's a promise." If he had known that she had been with another man, and then heard her emphatically promise that she had not, I don't think he could have concealed his anger and pretended to believe her. I really don't think he knows.

So, how old is Ben and how long have the Dharma dudes been on the island? I thought they had gone there in the seventies, but Ben looks like he's in his mid-forties at the youngest. Maybe the when Dharma people the "Others" were already there and overthrew them and took over?

Did Coleen not have a gun with her when she went down into the boat? How stupid is that!

Maybe the when Dharma people the “Others” were already there and overthrew them and took over?

Woah! What is up with that sentence? That was published after midnight, can you tell? Okay let me try saying that again: Maybe when the Dharma people came the "Others" were already there and took over.