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- Rick Warren
Pearls Before Swine Flu

Malaria kills over 2,000 people a day.

I think the reason a lot of people are going nutso about swine flu right now is because they think it threatens white Americans.

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1. Les - 04/29/2009 4:54 pm CDT

What a bizarro world. How many deaths from DDT compared to that malaria figure? Think we could have prevented a couple? No, because malaria helps prevent global warming by lowering the number of people emitting CO2 into the atmo.

See? Those Goreheads just never stop thinking.

2. Shrode - 04/29/2009 5:03 pm CDT

I think it's because no politician or Gov't official wants to be accused of not doing enough after the fact a la Katrina.

All of our schools in our county got closed today, for the next two weeks. We canceled our Wed night children's activities, as did all the other churches in our area.

We've got several confirmed cases in our area.

And you know what they say...A pound of prevention is worth an ounce of cure. (Right? :)

3. Jared - 04/29/2009 5:05 pm CDT

Not talking about the government. Talking about the hoi polloi and the media acting like the apocalypse is nigh.

4. Bill - 04/29/2009 5:50 pm CDT

That's what the media does. We were all supposed to die a week ago Thursday from global warming, if you remember.

And before that we were to die from killer bees, or was it Legionnaires disease, or nuclear holocaust, and other whatnot. I've been hearing about the apocalypse right around the corner for all my life.

They live to get people scared, so we'll spend all our time glued to the TV.

5. Jared - 04/29/2009 5:56 pm CDT

Leads to a natural question: Is it the media's fault? Or is it ours?

Why does the media go overboard on all that stuff? It can't be because we don't eat it up.

Why doesn't the media freak out about pandemics among the poor in Africa and Asia?
Isn't it because we wouldn't care (and therefore wouldn't watch)?

6. Shrode - 04/29/2009 6:09 pm CDT

Good questions Jared.

I think it's because the term "News" implies "News you care about"

And alternately I think the media gets criticized when it shows us "news we should care about" because they are pushing their agenda. And they get criticized when they show us news we do care about, because then we hear endless amounts of Lindsey Lohan and Paris Hilton.

Like the Health care problem, I think there's plenty of blame to go around. Media/gov't/public all play a part.

Seriously, though something like this is tough. What if it does turn out to be a major problem, and the media didn't talk about it much. Would people be mad at them then? I think the Media is obligated to report this stuff..especially locally. Our schools are being shut down in my area. We need to know what's going on!

7. Jared - 04/29/2009 6:17 pm CDT

If schools are being shut down, obviously the news needs to report that.

I'm not reacting to reporting the news. I'm reacting to what Bill was talking about. The OH MY GOSH WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE 24/7 red flashing tickers and dramatic music and "man on the scene (of nothing)" hype.

8. Shrode - 04/29/2009 6:50 pm CDT

This morning while watching the news about all the schools that were being shut down and all the abundance of caution and precautions that were being taken, the reporter on the scene of nothing said that in light of all that was being done (A LOT) the gov't clearly thought in this case an "ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" and he signed off.

Two thoughts went through my head. First, what is it with journalists and cliche's? Second, he was inaccurate. In light of all he just said, he should have closed with "in this case the gov't believes a hundred pounds of prevention is worth an ounce of cure."

9. iMonk - 04/29/2009 7:11 pm CDT

I have classrooms full of Africans. They think we've lost out minds. But they have taught me that Americans look completely ridiculous to internationals. Our way, with God on our side, all the time: That's what they see as what we are all about.

10. Quaid - 04/30/2009 8:35 am CDT

I think the drama on the news has less to do with the severity of the disease and more to do with the fact that it is relatively out of control.

While malaria kills thousands, it is relatively regional and controlled, on a macro level. Yes - we don't get malaria in North America and there might be a hint of ethnicism going on here, but I think the drama with swine flu is the idea that we're being attacked and no one really knows where it's coming from, how bad its consequences are and, therefore, what to do with the situation.

Only a handful of people die from this disease (and all of those deaths were contracted outside of our borders), but we've shut down complete school districts, all athletics in the state of Texas (which is actually a large undertaking) and our Vice President is recommending that we don't enter into any confined space such as subways, airplanes, buses, etc. Basically, don't go anywhere unless you're driving yourself and your destination doesn't include classrooms or other confined places (yes, he said we should not go into classrooms - yet my finals remain as scheduled?).

So the news is going overboard. That's not really news, is it? Still, I think that this time around, it is more of a case of the news reflecting reality than making up the drama on their own. It seems like either our government knows something we do not know and is taking vast steps to protect all of us, or they're going crazy. And the news feeds on crazy like Samson feeds on honey from the inside of a lion carcass. (Without regard for appropriateness or dignity - can you tell I'm studying Judges right now?)

So malaria isn't a new threat attacking from out of nowhere. It is more deadly, more severe and more important, but we know everything there is to know about it. We even know how to get rid of it, as we've done successfully here in the US, yet we do nothing. Sometimes the most successful news is the reporting of what no one knows on the scene of nothing. This is one of those cases where as soon as we know something, the drama will go away. Ironically, as soon as there is news, there will be no more news.

11. ruben - 04/30/2009 11:05 am CDT

I think the reason why it is a big story is that it is an combination of bird, human, and swine flu and we have never seen something like this before.

12. Shrode - 04/30/2009 11:26 am CDT

I changed my mind again. I'm with Jared totally now.

And here's why: I saw something on the news this morning. It was an interview with some high, knowledgable doctor lady.

She said that the regular flu kills thousands in the U.S. every year. THOUSANDS!

What makes this different is only that it is a "new strain" and we are watching biology in real time which has never happened before. She said this is how nature works. Diseases mutate and change and spread through the population until the population develops an immunity.

The only difference this time is knowledge and awareness of it as it happens.

13. Jared - 04/30/2009 12:29 pm CDT

Yep.

Further, in 1998 every week an average 306 people died from drunk driving accidents. 306 per week!

We have had one death in the U.S., a toddler whose initial treatment was in Mexico. A tragedy, yes. But not cause for panic.

So far, there are, what?, 236 cases of swine flu worldwide? And most of these are treatable with fluids, rest, and Tamiflu and such (if they're in industrialized nations like the U.S.)

Statistically speaking, 236 people out of billions with a weird flu that is not at this point life threatening is not an emergency.

14. shaun - 04/30/2009 3:10 pm CDT

I think the media gets criticized when it shows us "news we should care about" because they are pushing their agenda. And they get criticized when they show us news we do care about, because then we hear endless amounts of Lindsey Lohan and Paris Hilton.


Beautifully said

15. Bill - 04/30/2009 3:15 pm CDT

Part of the problem is the fact that news is now on a 24 hour cycle. Of course the swine flu outbreak (I'm not going to call it a "pandemic" yet) is important news. But they have to fill up 24 hours. So they beat it to death.

In addition, news is, more and more, seen as a form of entertainment. I think much journalistic integrity has been lost in the past decades. There was a time in the not too distant past when an anchorman (Walter Cronkite) was one of the most trusted people in our country. Think there are very many newsanchors today who have that same respect?

16. Shrode - 04/30/2009 3:28 pm CDT

Right now, I mean, right now, I'm having to decide whether or not to have services Sunday.

Sigh.

Everything in our area is now closed. Schools, daycares, Little league, a local playpark called "Emerald Rainbow" etc...

I think this is one of those cases where I will get criticized no matter what.

17. Bill - 04/30/2009 3:48 pm CDT

Are there a lot of cases in SA? Wow.

What are other churches doing?

18. Jared - 04/30/2009 3:56 pm CDT

Shrode, what's everyone else doing?
Do the opposite and maybe you'll get on the news, gaining some free publicity for your church. :-)

(Make sure you were a mask in your interview for added effect.)

19. Milly - 04/30/2009 4:01 pm CDT

. . . .or because it's in our yard.

If malaria was in my yard I'd most likely be working at not getting it.

BTW for those who have gone out for face masks not all of them keep the germs away.

20. Les - 04/30/2009 4:23 pm CDT

Whenever there's a crisis there are HUGE profits to be made both politically and financially. Yes the media is in the business of creating, maintaining, and prolonging crises on local and national levels. More and more the media IS the news, a condition that used to be anathema to journalists with any integrity. Not any more.

Now that they're in bed with the administration, the congress, and the judicial branch, we are going to see more and more molehills presented as mountains and mountains presented as planets.

Gore's success has inebriated the lot of them and they can't get enough.

I'm not saying this isn't serious. It is. Precisely because of the unknown variables. But watching the liberal politicians getting all shivery with goosebumps at the thrill of cashing in is disgusting to the nth. I have to shower after every news cast anymore.

21. Jared - 04/30/2009 4:43 pm CDT

Resurgence on how a church could respond:
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=83341116033&h=qvkUv&u=L61zy&ref=nf

22. MzEllen - 04/30/2009 8:22 pm CDT

I think the reason a lot of people are going nutso about swine flu right now is because they think it threatens white Americans.

1) the last time I checked, malaria didn't get on an airplane and travel world-wide.

2) it isn't that it's threatening white Americans, it's that it may end up threatening those we care about (no matter what ethnic group they belong to).

3) that means that it may end up threatening those who God has given us the duty to care for...

4) I work with a population that includes immuno-compromised people, I don't see racism in being extra-vigilant.

5) and that also means that if our government has been put into place by God and has the job of watching over the safety and security of the citizens, our government would merely doing its job if it stays vigilant and takes measures if needed.

Sorry, I'm not looking under that rock for racism.

23. Jared - 04/30/2009 8:49 pm CDT

Ellen, that was kind of my point. We consider it an emergency because (we think) it threatens us. If it's something threatens "other people," we're fine with ambivalence.

But comparison-wise, malaria is killing way more people than swine flu has.

24. Bill - 04/30/2009 10:16 pm CDT

Jared,

I both see and agree with your point, and have reservations.

You're right. We should care more and be doing more to take care of those far away who are dying (in far greater numbers than what we experience here).

And, yes, the media is - at least to this point - way overblowing this. They aren't helped by our gaffe-machine Vice President either.

But . . .

(and I know you despise "yes, buts", so bear with me :-)

For most of history, most people were only aware of problems and dangers close to home. It's only in recent generations that it's even been possible to know much about what's going on on the other side of the globe. Now we have the entire world, full of tragedy, to think about and hear about. And yet human nature remains: it's sin, I know, but I am saddened by the death of a child in Africa, but completely alarmed by a danger to my own children (note: I'm not alarmed at all yet about swine flu).

I know I need to work on that. But I'm with Ellen - there was a racial component in your original post that I don't think is there.

If your point is that we are guilty of the sin of self interest, then I agree.

I'm guilty as charged.

25. Jared - 04/30/2009 11:05 pm CDT

Racist component, okay.

What I'm saying is that if 2,000 Africans (who are black) die every day from a mosquito bite, we are not as concerned as if less than 20 Americans (who are largely white) get sick.

The racial thing was meant for shock, sure. And maybe "racism" isn't a motive, sure. But "they're not us or close to us" is really not any nicer than racism.

26. Bill - 05/01/2009 6:56 am CDT

I agree with you, Jared.

What should we do?

27. Bill - 05/01/2009 6:58 am CDT

One more comment (not as important as my last one - I'm truly interested in your response, now that I feel like cr@p)

Do you think the "they're not us or close to us" is unique to us? I think if the tables were turned, would the reaction on the other side of the globe would also be similar? In other words, is this an American problem, or is it a human problem?

28. Jared - 05/01/2009 7:42 am CDT

Human problem, I think. But we should focus on our responsibility, I think, rather than play the "well, they don't think about us" game.

And actually they do. Churches in Asia and Latin America are sending missionaries here more and more because we're not evangelizing. We're a mission field for the places where Christianity is really on fire.

But to answer your question about what we can do:
The post was about the panic. I'd suggest we educate ourselves and "worry" just as much about the 2/3 world as we do ours.

And then there are mosquito net programs we can support, places we can go if we have the time and money to see in person what's happening, missionaries we can support, and churches (starting with our own) we can urge to devote more resources and focus toward our neighbors and less towards ourselves.

29. Quaid - 05/01/2009 7:53 am CDT

It should be mentioned, too - when you get down to it, this Swine Flu outbreak is new while malaria is not.

There's nothing new to report about malaria while there is always something new to report (regardless of importance) about swine flu.

Another school closes.
Another case identified.
Another ignorant comment by man-on-the-street (or our Vice President).

Yes. Normal flu kills thousands each year. NOT NEW.
Yes. Malaria kills thousands every day. NOT NEW.
Yes. Cancer, Heart Disease, Drunk Driving, and 1,000 other things kill far more people than swine flu. NOT NEW.

Virus that came out of nowhere, took out an entire (large) country's way of life, spreads into other countries, begins to shut them down, as well and begins killing relatively young and healthy people. NEW.

I agree that the coverage is overkill. We can all send a thank you card to Souter for quitting the court - that will help some. But while the Swine flu pales in comparison to other major diseases, I think it is going too far in criticizing the media for not reporting it. While it may not be the most dire world health problem, it is certainly the most urgent world health issue.

30. Bill - 05/01/2009 8:57 am CDT

I think, rather than play the "well, they don't think about us" game.

I hope you don't think that's where I'm at - I shouldn't have brought that up. I admit I'm not doing what I should for the rest of the world. But I'm not in the "just let the heathens die" camp.

Good suggestions.

Also, for the record, I'm anti-panic as well, and have been for years. I think the panic we hear on the news about, well, everything is ridiculous.

31. Jared - 05/01/2009 9:26 am CDT

I know you're not like that. My riposte was for the benefit of any lookers-on who might've been thinking, "Yeah! Good point!" in that petty sense.

32. Bob Sacamento - 05/01/2009 9:42 am CDT

I think it's complicated, but I think Jared is largely right. I heard someone say -- and I think this was Os Guinness, but don't take my word for it -- that American news agencies basically had a formula for how much time to devote to a story about death/destruction/disease etc. A story that affected one American was worth a story that affected about 10 Europeans. And that was worth a story that affected about 100 folks anywhere else.
And then, of course, the more hysteria the media can create over this, the more tightly we will glue ourselves to the TV screens, and the more they can charge their sponsors for air time. "The business of newspapers [or networks, or internet new sites, or ...] is business!"

33. Bill - 05/01/2009 10:06 am CDT

Back to Malaria.

Any thoughts on DDT? My understanding is malaria cases skyrocketed after DDT was banned (of course, i'm a right wing nut, so that may not be true :-) - I'm going back to Les's first comment.

Well-meaning, good hearted people fought for the banning of DDT. And millions have died since.

Anyone have info on this?

34. Jared - 05/01/2009 10:06 am CDT

More info:
I heard this morning that the regular flu kills 30-35,000 Americans every year.
(Swine flu has so far killed 0 Americans, and >30 worldwide so far.)

Clearly we should be wearing masks 24/7. :-)

35. Jared - 05/01/2009 10:12 am CDT

Bill, South Africa has started using DDT and it is helping thereabouts.
But it continues to be controversial. Politics as usual is keeping it out of other affected parts of Africa.

Found some good info at www.fightingmalaria.org

I just can't get over that 2,000 people (children!) die from basically a mosquito bite every day.

Not to mention hunger and other diseases.
It's no cause for despair, but it can be overwhelming and the times I don't think about it are the times when I'm, as now, sitting in an air conditioned bagel shop drinking a $3 coffee.
God forgive me.

36. Bill - 05/01/2009 11:24 am CDT

A whole lot of children die from another common malady (dehydration due to diarrhea) that can be solved with some very inexpensive (pennies) rehydration treatment.

We don't know how good we've got it. Maybe that's why we freak out.

It doesn't help that the WHO has upped the level to 5 (Imminent Pandemic). I don't understand these things, but I guess it could get a lot worse.

37. Les - 05/01/2009 3:35 pm CDT

Please accept my utmost respect for ALL the comments here. With that disclaimer, I get real tired of the criticism that we don't care as much about them as we do about us, as though we are selfish for that reaction.

My response is too visceral to express politely, largely because I feel that is such an empty criticism. OF COURSE I worry more when it's closer to me. That's survival, not selfishness. It is a response GOD put in us because of the fall. It's the same reason we have the concept of family. We protect our family before we protect the neighbor's family. My first responsibility is to those closest to me. I owe my first allegiance to my wife, then my family, then my country, etc. There are some of us who are ESPECIALLY called to the mission, wherein God has given us something out of the mainstream to do.

America is first in private donations of time, personnel and money throughout the world. And the VAST majority of those come from spiritual and religious motivations.

I guess I'm sick of the accusation that Americans are the most self-obsessed people in the world. Not true. As Jared said, we are self-obsessed because sin, not nationality, and that is generic. IF I WERE TO CARE AS MUCH ABOUT AFRICA AS I DO ABOUT MYSELF, MY FAMILY, AND MY IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD I WOULD LITERALLY GO INSANE. The evil there is too great for me to bear. My nervous system would simply shut down. I have a psychological shut-off valve put in me for survival.

38. Jared - 05/01/2009 5:11 pm CDT

Les, I tend to agree on the family thing, and I have written about the myth of evangelical and conservative apathy and such elsewhere.

But my whole point here isn't that we shouldn't care about ourselves. My point is that WE'RE FINE.
I was trying to say, before the convo went a million different directions, that the swine flu is not a threat to us. At least, not any ways near the sense that malaria is a threat to our neighbors.

I don't know about caring for ourselves first being from God. He says "think of God and neighbor first" too many times for me to be as gung-ho about that. But I get your point.

I hope others have understood that my point was not that we should care about some people more than others or not care about certain people or base our care on location or skin color.
My point was that we are more concerned about a statistical non-threat than we are a statistical threat b/c we believe the non-threat threatens us.

It's not like we were knocking ourselves out thinking about malaria when swine flu diverted our attention. We were obsessed with American Idol or something.

39. Les - 05/02/2009 6:58 am CDT

Jared,
Yeah, I agree there. I'm not suggesting something other than "love thy neighbor" either. I'm saying that instinctively, and for good reason, my first priority is to God, then my wife, and family. How many ministers have neglected their families in their devotion to the ministry and so lose their kids?

I guess my attachment to Africa through my wife's visits and work there make me take malaria very personally because she knows and has touched people dying of it. We only have the resources to routinely deal with what confronts us. We can't solve everything. When tragedy gets closer, I direct my resources toward the protection and concern for my family, and myself. If I die, I can help no one.

But I do agree that there is a large and inuring "Thank God it's not me" attitude that prevails in the human spirit. And there is no doubt that the enemy has succeeded greatly in isolating us from each other, even, ironically enough, under the guise of "coming together."

40. jez - 05/05/2009 6:41 am CDT

I don't want to belittle the malaria problem at all, nor do I want to defend the sensationalist reporting on swine flu, but I do think the new flu is more news-worthy than malaria. First because of its novelty, second because of its direct relevance to us, and third because of the potential death-toll. Sure, it hasn't killed many people yet, but neither did the first wave of the flu epidemic in 1918. AFAIK The second wave was the deadly one, and it killed more people than WW1 did. To be honest, you'd probably be best off catching swine flu now while it's benign and building an immunity. :) (should point out that I am not a medical doctor, a second deadly wave is unlikely, and please do not panic!) I've avoided the media coverage of swine flu, so I have no idea whether this is common knowledge or not; apologies if I'm being redundant.

Please consider donating to Oxfam to provide mosquito nets for Africa. In my opinion, it makes the biggest difference for the least money/politics. Also consider water management schemes which are a lot more difficult to judge, unfortunately there are some out there which are a waste of time and money, but mosquitoes breed especially well in flood waters.

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