"And do you now begin to see why Christianity has always said that the devil is a fallen angel? That is not a mere story for the children. It is a real recognition of the fact that evil is a parasite, not an original thing. The powers which enable evil to carry on are powers given it by goodness."

- C.S. Lewis
The Call For Humble Warriors

Dan Edelen has done it again. Run, don't walk, over to Cerulean Sanctum to read his latest post: The Humble Warrior.

Here is an excerpt (the whole thing's good). I have nothing else to add, other than that I want to be like the humble man he describes.

Less often than that do we have examples of men who never picked up a sword or gun, who never spilled blood, but spent most of their time on their knees. George M?ller was such a man. A lot of the testosterone-laden out there wouldn't think much of M?ller; he was concerned for orphans. Sounds kind of womanly compared with the examples we see held up in bestselling men's books. But M?ller prayed. That man sweated out big prayers that met big needs and overcame ferocious principalities and powers that sought to destroy little boys and girls, demonic forces that wanted nothing more than to grind up children in the hardscrabble streets of England. And the one thing that people said about M?ller besides the fact that he was a praying man? That he was humble.

As much as the bestseller shelves are loaded with books jam-packed with bone-chewing examples of manliness, the dearth of books featuring meek and humble men speaks volumes. Simply possessing a penis and knowing every great line from Spartacus, The Green Berets and the king of all warrior movies, Braveheart, doesn't qualify you for warriorhood. Making prideful, snarky assertions about someone's eternal security on the God-blog flavor of the week doesn't make you God's man, either. It takes a humble man to walk into his prayer closet (where, it should be noted, there are no ticker-tape parades), kneel in humility before the Lord, and start assaulting the powers of darkness through prayer. Your average street dog can easily sink his teeth into a flesh and blood foe, but only a meek man devoted to prayer can tear down demonic strongholds in spiritual places!

The problem with Christian manhood today is not that there aren't enough villages to plunder, it's that humble, stooped grandmothers are out there on their knees fighting the battles that "real" men are too proud (or lazy or weak) to fight. Too many men in our churches moan that someone stole their warrior badge. Meanwhile, Satan is plundering OUR village. And he's doing it not in the obvious places, but in the spiritual realms, the very place that prayer alone works.

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Comments on "The Call For Humble Warriors":
1. Jared - 08/03/2005 7:45 am CDT

Fwiw, Bill, you are the humblest man I've ever met.

So you've got that going for you.


;-)

2. De - 08/03/2005 7:50 am CDT

(after a comment like Jared's it's hard to know what to say. So I'll leave it at this)

Thanks Jared.

3. Jared - 08/03/2005 7:52 am CDT

Btw, I like the category you chose.

4. De - 08/03/2005 8:32 am CDT

:-)

I'm not against being Wild at Heart (just not of the Eldredge variety). I need that.

And Aslan is not a tame lion.

5. Shrode - 08/03/2005 9:10 am CDT

Wow. That's awesome! Thanks. (I noticed the category too. good choice. :)

6. De - 08/03/2005 9:59 am CDT

Thanks Shrode

To be fair, and not to get on another Eldredge convo, but just because some may misinterpret, in WAH Eldredge talks about spiritual warfare quite a bit. For all my complaints, that was a useful part of the book.

7. Quaid - 08/03/2005 10:14 am CDT

Can one guard against Pride on their own - without accountability? Can one cure Pride on their own?

Obviously, we (should) all want to be humble. How do we become moreso? This seems like a basic question, but I am not sure it has such a simple answer.

What are the Thinklings' thoughts?

8. De - 08/03/2005 10:28 am CDT

I think the best cure for pride is getting knocked down a few pegs, frequently. And that's an act of God more than men.

9. De - 08/03/2005 10:34 am CDT

More ruminatin'

I've long thought that the humblest people are the people you don't think of as humble. One of the humblest persons I've ever known didn't "act" humble. She had none of that overbearing concern with herself and her own humility, all the false modesty, etc. that people who appear humble often do (like the guy Jared points out in comment #1 - a guy I know very, very well and who's act I see through in my best moments). She just lived a joyful life and un-selfconsciously blessed others.

10. Jared - 08/03/2005 10:58 am CDT

a guy I know very, very well and who's act I see through in my best moments

Forthrightness about one's failures and flaws is a sign of humility.

11. Michele - 08/03/2005 11:02 am CDT

I'm new to this blog, and enjoy it very much. Is there something wrong with John Eldredge? I've only read 2 of his books, and enjoyed them. I realize he's sort of philisophical, and a dreamy thinker, but I found some of his insights beautiful and encouraging. Did I miss something weird?
One thing that did bother me at the end of "Desire" was a suggestion that you stay out of church for a while to sort something out, (can't remember what) and I thought this terrible bad and dangerous advice.
I think you would like my son's blog. It's called culturezoo. One the blogs is his business, but there is one that is his musings, which are much like your own.

12. De - 08/03/2005 11:07 am CDT

Jared - stop it! :-)

Michele,

Welcome!

There's something wrong with Eldredge just like there's something wrong with me. I have only read Wild At Heart and while, overall, I found a lot to object to in the book, there were also many good things.

Your point about his terrible bad and dangerous advice at the end of Desire is a good illustration of the similar problems I had with Wild At Heart. I just wasn't as able to get over these kinds of things as many people.

I am glad that there are many who have profited spiritually from Eldredge's writings.

13. Jared - 08/03/2005 11:10 am CDT

Michele, good questions.

Please feel free to peruse the various posts in the Wild at Heart category here, just to get a sampling of our general reflections on Eldredge and WAH. Here's the link that brings up all the posts in the category:
http://thinklings.org/index.php?cat=26

14. DLE - 08/03/2005 2:12 pm CDT

I wrote that piece less as a counter to Wild at Heart theology and more because I see an increasing amount of haughtiness in the Christian blogosphere and in life in general. The quality of our argumentation does not make us men. No one could turn the tables on His accusers like Jesus, but He chose not to at the most critical time.

I must admit that I also get a bit unnerved when I'm on the receiving end of bile because I'm not willing to shoot first and ask questions later. The blogosphere is filling up with that kind of talk and I don't understand why. Humble men are willing to listen to what an opponent says. Prideful men are not.

It also goes to prayer in that our battle is not against flesh and blood. If you are considered my opponent, it's what is standing unseen behind you that is the real opponent. You are just the mouthpiece. We Christians need to understand that truth whenever we go up against anything that sets itself up against the Lord. It's easy to attack flesh and blood, but spiritual forces are more dastardly and entrenched. You take out a mouthpiece, another mouthpiece takes over. But take out the power behind that mouthpiece and you win that skirmish.

Intellect does not win many battles anymore, but prayer still does.

15. Paula - 08/03/2005 11:00 pm CDT

So many comments, so little time! It would be interesting to see what you all have to say about WAH, but I guess I know how I think about what JE said. From my memory (which can be faulty) he seemed to emphasize the wildness (coming from emotions) most of all. He can call it a 'heart' thing if he wants. But I don't think he can say men got that wildness from the heart of God. God isn't wild; or at least I never heard one of His attributes listed as 'wild.' He is, however, powerful, wise, good, just and full of grace. These attributes (He has others not listed of course) combine to form a character that I belive men should emulate and I don't remember JR talking about character, i.e. their 'strong heart.'

He talked about their need for an adventure, their need for a beauty to rescue blah, blah. Okay. But what happens when they return from their adventure? What happens when they've got their beauty? They come home to begin a new life with her and the 'adventure' is quite different. And there are new ways in which they will be 'rescuing' her. That man, in my opinion better be more 'strong' of heart than 'wild' in heart. I don't want him going off and finding some more adventures and maybe 'rescuing' some other beauties.

Don't laugh. You may think, oh, you're taking it all wrong. I'm not; I read the book and JE tells a great story about his life with his wife. That's no guarantee every man reading that book or taking his seminars will be able to stay as true to HIS dream as he is.

Both the devil and Jesus are described in the Bible as 'Lions.' However, the enemy is the one who is said seeks to "devour." The Lion Jesus that represented (okay, use Aslan) was akin to what DLE describes above. Having a power that can be deadly, but not using it because one can be in total control of Oneself. Of course, it was also one of His Holy Names (Lion of Judah).
thanks for letting me have the floor for so long.

16. Jamie - 08/04/2005 12:02 am CDT

I think idea is that in marriage you need to continue rescuring your beauty. Not go rescuing loads of other beauties!

17. De - 08/04/2005 3:31 am CDT

DLE,

Thanks for the comment. I completely agree.

And I will echo what you've said - this isn't really about Eldredge's book. It was my mistake to "mix" that in here with my Wild At Heart categorization and asides about the book.

18. Jared - 08/04/2005 3:48 am CDT

Well, I'm the one who mentioned it. I didn't really mean to explicitly connect the post (Dan's or yours) to Eldredge. Just complimenting the choice of categorization, since I think a post about Humble Warriors belongs in a category focusing on the general subject of manhood.
Sorry to have sparked a tangent!

19. Paula - 08/04/2005 1:36 pm CDT

Jamie: I think so too. And I believe I mentioned it in my comment.

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