- Rick Warren
From a provocative piece by Peter Wehner:
In the wake of the victories by the North Vietnamese and the Khmer Rouge, many liberals simply ignored what followed their ascension to power. Progressives believed the leadership of these countries were comprised of enlightened agrarian reformers who would improve the everyday lives of people in both countries. What the South Vietnamese and the Cambodian people got instead was unimaginable brutality and horror — and what we heard from many on the left were excuses and indifference.Read the whole thing.
I was reminded of this in reading Max’s post, which quoted a tribal elder in Afghanistan, commenting on President Obama’s decision to withdraw more than 33,000 troops by next September. “This drawdown will embolden the morale of the Taliban, and actually it has already emboldened them,” the tribal elder said. The Taliban are saying to the elders not to support Americans or you will be killed, and now they say the Americans are leaving and your lives will not be spared.
Yet we have figures like the liberal evangelical Jim Wallis urging the United States exit immediately, without even a single reference to the hellish future that would face the people of Afghanistan if that were to happen. Wallis argued something similar in Iraq, urging the United States to withdraw rather than support President Bush’s surge strategy. If America had followed the counsel of Wallis, Iraq would have descended into civil war and mass death.
None of this is surprising for Wallis or those who shared his worldview. After all, in September 1979, Wallis wrote of the Vietnamese “boat people”: “Many of today’s refugees were inoculated with a taste for a Western lifestyle during the war years and are fleeing to support their consumer habit in other lands.” (See this profile on Wallis.) Wallis’ words were disgraceful, a slander of innocent people who were fleeing a repressive government. And in Cambodia we didn’t see the emergence of social justice (a favorite phrase of Wallis’); what we saw instead was forced labor, slavery, starvation and the extermination of roughly one-quarter of the Cambodian population.
I recall my cognitive dissonance: Why weren’t those on the left –who took great pride in advertising their compassion for the poor, the dispossessed, and the downtrodden and who took special pride in their multicultural sensitivities — the least bit horrified by what happened and their complicity in it? Didn’t the mass graves, the genocide, and the killing fields bother them? Why weren’t there more liberals like Joan Baez, who supported the North Vietnamese until she became horrified at its human-rights violations (she eventually published a full-page newspaper advertisement describing the horror that had descended on Vietnam). Conservatism might not be perfect, I thought at the time, but it could do a good deal better than this.
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War is awful, and should be entered into only with the most grave deliberation. As a side note, I've long been a proponent (regardless of the political party of the President) of Congress having to declare war before we commit significant military resources. Not pass an approval resolution. Declare war. (our wonderful congress is too devoted to covering their political behonkuses to do that, of course).
I agree with this post, though - once you're committed, you have to see it through humanely and wisely. Leaving and washing your hands doesn't absolve you of guilt regarding the immediate aftermath.
And hooray for Joan Baez. I didn't know that.
We will always have war and rumors of wars until That Day. We need to listen to people like Solzhenitsyn. He said this in a speech given at Harvard in 1978--"At present, some Western voices already have spoken of obtaining protection from a third power against aggression in the next world conflict, if there is one; in this case the shield would be China. But I would not wish such an outcome to any country in the world. First of all, it is again a doomed alliance with Evil; also, it would grant the United States a respite, but when at a later date China with its billion people would turn around armed with American weapons, America itself would fall prey to a genocide similar to the one perpetrated in Cambodia in our days." He also went on to say something like we need to turn back to God.As I recall this speech was not well received at Harvard.
The problem is and always will be that the United States cannot simultaneously protect its own interests and run what are basically humanitarian wars all over the globe. Staying in the Middle East ties our hands, drains our wealth, and continues to cost American lives with no feasible end in sight. Leaving likely means disaster. There is no easy solution.
For every calamity stayed, another one rises up. It's too depressing to imagine.
Thank you Andrew,
Another issue is that the soldiers are doing several tours and coming home to a mess and in a mess. I had dinner with an ex boyfriend who was rather messed up from the time he spend defending this country only to come home to a divorce.
We went in with no real plan and we can’t get out. It was a mess from the get go.

I remember Wallis' recommendation for what he called a third way to handle the Iraq situation before we sent in our troops. He had several steps which amounted to speaking sternly and inspecting closely and thereby winning the day. His fourth step was to send in inspectors under guard to look at everything without compromise. When I read that, I wondered why he didn't believe that was a great recipe for getting ambushed and why didn't answer the obvious question of what we would do when Hussein denied us access to certain locations. I can only assume he thought that would be all cleared away by more strong words from NATO and the U.N. just like Gaddafi has been sent to his room by the International Criminal Court calling for his arrest. I think they should call for it again. That would show we really mean business.